I felt as if Dr Kim spent too much time on IUIs. I already came in with a diagnosis of balanced translocation so the hard part was figured out. With PGT SR genetic testing I got pregnant after the first transfer. Other than that he is really nice, timely, and approachable...I was trying to push for a multiple embryo transfer but considering my age and diagnosis Dr Kim would not let me. I respect his advice.
I really enjoyed this clinic [Palo Alto Medical Foundation]...It is so nice that they are open 7 days a week including most holidays. Having 5 doctors also is a plus. When one doctor is off it is easy to get an appointment with another doctor. Waiting times are minimal. The big weakness for me was the covid rules. No partners are allowed even during egg retrieval and transfer.
How was your experience with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
I felt as if Dr Kim spent too much time on IUIs. I already came in with a diagnosis of balanced translocation so the hard part was figured out. With PGT SR genetic testing I got pregnant after the first transfer. Other than that he is really nice, timely, and approachable.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
Advocate for IVF sooner. Try not to do so many IUIs. 2 or 3 is enough. I did 5.
Describe the protocols Alexis Kim used in your cycles at Palo Alto Medical Foundation and their degree of success.
I feel like I had a very basic protocol for egg retrieval. Gonal F and Menopur then adding cetrotide to prevent ovulation later. I had pretty good results. For transfer I could chose natural or medicated. I chose natural and I cannot recommend it enough. The vaginal suppositories bid vs pio shots make a big difference. Also associated with less risks of preclampsia later on. The only risk with the natural cycle was a higher chance of it being canceled because of missed ovulation however with the amount of IUIs I went through, I got pretty good with pinning down the day of ovulation.
Describe your experience with your nurse at Palo Alto Medical Foundation. (Assigned nurse: Kristi)
Kirsti was great. She always got back to me in a timely manner. My Health Online was a great platform to use.
Describe your experience with Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
I really enjoyed this clinic. I drove 2 hours to get here. It is so nice that they are open 7 days a week including most holidays. Having 5 doctors also is a plus. When one doctor is off it is easy to get an appointment with another doctor. Waiting times are minimal. The big weakness for me was the covid rules. No partners are allowed even during egg retrieval and transfer. Although my husband was allowed in the first ultrasound. This is currently mid to end of 2022. This made me feel extremely alone. Talking with other girls going in my position this is one of the only clinics that still inforce these policies. When I asked office staff they say its Sutter policy. However I am a Sutter employee at a different location where this isn't the case.
Describe your experience with your monitoring appointments at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
The office staff knew my by name which was nice so I didn't even need to check in. Wait times were minimal. Maybe about half the time it was my assigned doctor.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
I had a 15000 dollar infertility budget with my insurance. I worked with a financial counselor named Nadia who really maximized the spending. I paid out of pocket for meds to take advantage of the 50 percent self pay discount. Overall I spent only 6000 for 5 IUIs, 1 egg retrieval, and 1 transfer thanks to Nadia.
Describe Alexis Kim's approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
I was trying to push for a multiple embryo transfer but considering my age and diagnosis Dr Kim would not let me. I respect his advice.
It was a very long journey but Dr. Kim and his team ultimately delivered (I graduated from the clinic after my fifth transfer which resulted in a pregnancy). Dr. Kim is kind, calm and patient. He has a really steady and gentle hand in procedures - other doctors will ram a probe painfully but Dr. Kim avoids that. He takes the time to explain things too. He doesn’t over promise and is science based. What I appreciate about him is that he doesn’t push outlandish IVF add-ons, but he is still willing to try things when you specifically request it (for example, I asked to do karyotype testing even though it wouldn’t be super helpful or didn’t seem particularly needed, and he was willing to let me do it upon request). At many points during the process, I wanted to change things up or do things a certain way, and while Dr. Kim indicated that we didn’t have to do things that way but was willing to accommodate, a lot of his advice (especially around luck of the draw) ended up being true in the end. One thing that I appreciated too was that given some of my complicated history, he made it a point to see me every time, even on his surgery days and for basic monitoring. (That is pretty rare at other clinics.) I was happy in the end with my treatment.
If you are a hard case, it may be harder to find the cause quickly because PAMF doesn’t automatically do things like DNA fragmentation tests, karyotype testing, ERAs, Receptiva testing, etc. You have to be an advocate for stuff like that. But if you raise it, PAMF will entertain the request but discuss the facts and science with you (and if the benefit is only marginal, they may be discouraging of pursuing it)...Honestly, PAMF isn’t the sexy clinic around here (unlike CCRM, Spring or Dr. Aimee) but don’t let that stop you from considering PAMF. Sure, you won’t have star VIP treatment, but after talking to other people who visit other local clinics here, I have grown to appreciate PAMF’s quiet but solid approach. PAMF runs smoothly. You don’t have ridiculously long waits (unlike Kaiser). PAMF stays focused on the proven science. I think some of the bad reviews of this practice were from a long time ago, but I think PAMF must have made a lot of progress since then in improving their services because a lot of the criticism seems unfair.
How was your experience with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
It was a very long journey but Dr. Kim and his team ultimately delivered (I graduated from the clinic after my fifth transfer which resulted in a pregnancy). Dr. Kim is kind, calm and patient. He has a really steady and gentle hand in procedures - other doctors will ram a probe painfully but Dr. Kim avoids that. He takes the time to explain things too. He doesn’t over promise and is science based. What I appreciate about him is that he doesn’t push outlandish IVF add-ons, but he is still willing to try things when you specifically request it (for example, I asked to do karyotype testing even though it wouldn’t be super helpful or didn’t seem particularly needed, and he was willing to let me do it upon request). At many points during the process, I wanted to change things up or do things a certain way, and while Dr. Kim indicated that we didn’t have to do things that way but was willing to accommodate, a lot of his advice (especially around luck of the draw) ended up being true in the end. One thing that I appreciated too was that given some of my complicated history, he made it a point to see me every time, even on his surgery days and for basic monitoring. (That is pretty rare at other clinics.) I was happy in the end with my treatment.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
Dr. Kim is solid if you fit in a box or are an easy case. If you are a hard case, it may be harder to find the cause quickly because PAMF doesn’t automatically do things like DNA fragmentation tests, karyotype testing, ERAs, Receptiva testing, etc. You have to be an advocate for stuff like that. But if you raise it, PAMF will entertain the request but discuss the facts and science with you (and if the benefit is only marginal, they may be discouraging of pursuing it).
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
My doctor always remembered my name and history. He always was very patient and kind.
Describe the protocols Alexis Kim used in your cycles at Palo Alto Medical Foundation and their degree of success.
Ultimately what worked was antagonist and Day 5 transfer with no PGS testing.
Describe your experience with your nurse at Palo Alto Medical Foundation. (Assigned nurse: Kristi )
I bombarded my coordinator with a gabillion questions and requests. She or another team member never forgot to respond or help. Everything was timely. I have witnessed no major mistakes. The group operates very well. I did talk to another local clinic since I was going to be forced to switch clinics due to an insurance change had my last FET not worked, and I was surprised at how much more disorganized this other famous clinic was. It made me miss PAMF - the Sutter Health app makes communication so easy.
The PAMF nurses were also very kind about me graduating and asked me to stay in touch and send pictures. Some of the OR nurses are sweethearts - one day when I went for a transfer, I learned that there was nothing to transfer and burst out in tears, and a kind nurse offered me a hug which I really needed. I really appreciated her compassion.
Describe your experience with Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
Honestly, PAMF isn’t the sexy clinic around here (unlike CCRM, Spring or Dr. Aimee) but don’t let that stop you from considering PAMF. Sure, you won’t have star VIP treatment, but after talking to other people who visit other local clinics here, I have grown to appreciate PAMF’s quiet but solid approach. PAMF runs smoothly. You don’t have ridiculously long waits (unlike Kaiser). PAMF stays focused on the proven science. I think some of the bad reviews of this practice were from a long time ago, but I think PAMF must have made a lot of progress since then in improving their services because a lot of the criticism seems unfair.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
I had unlimited IVF coverage through my employer so I have no idea what anything cost. But I was impressed that they processed my insurance efficiently and never tried to unfairly bill me for things covered by insurance.
Describe Alexis Kim's approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
PAMF is pretty strict if you are under 35 with single embryo transfers.
Dr. Kim took time to address every possible step we may have to take and then went into elaborate detail regarding each option. He was sensitive to our concerns and needs. I never felt rushed or like I was just another patient on the schedule...He took time to develop the rapport we needed. As I stated previously he was upfront about everything from the process, options, labs, and even costs. I have yet to feel alone or lost in this process.
They [Palo Alto nurses] addressed every concern within their scope of practice and offered a reassurance presence...This clinic is designed with privacy and confidentiality as a top priority. The clinic has taken time to ensure that the members of its team are compassionate and supportive. My only wish is that there was a location closer to where I live. We live an hour away so the commute can be a bit much. (Before anyone asks, we are military and referred to PAMF. The distance is a small sacrifice in the grand scheme of things.)
How was your experience with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
I went into this like most women in this situation: excited, anxious, and a bit scared of what lies ahead. From the first visit and so far throughout this process Dr. Kim has been more than reassuring and honest about what to expect. He took time to develop the rapport we needed. As I stated previously he was upfront about everything from the process, options, labs, and even costs. I have yet to feel alone or lost in this process.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
I would say, “you made it this far, keep going!” I know the frustration of trying to conceive and feeling unheard, but Dr. Kim will help alleviate that as much as he can. I don’t profess him to be able to resolve all issues, but he is in the business of helping give others miracles in form of humans. Come with your questions and be open to what you may hear from any provider.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
Dr. Kim took time to address every possible step we may have to take and then went into elaborate detail regarding each option. He was sensitive to our concerns and needs. I never felt rushed or like I was just another patient on the schedule.
Describe the protocols Alexis Kim used in your cycles at Palo Alto Medical Foundation and their degree of success.
I’m currently awaiting my cycle review for my injection schedule. However I had a lot of the imaging and labs completed from my previous doctor. My husband and I had to have a new set of labs completed, I required a SHG to assess my uterine wall/cavity, and the plan is for IVF. I have a blocked fallopian tube and my spouse’s sperm motility is low so we have to have the sperm injected into the egg for fertilization, hence the only reason IVF is our only option.
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
The nursing staff was very attentive and welcoming. They are definitely an extension of Dr. Kim! They addressed every concern within their scope of practice and offered a reassurance presence.
Describe your experience with Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
This clinic is designed with privacy and confidentiality as a top priority. The clinic has taken time to ensure that the members of its team are compassionate and supportive. My only wish is that there was a location closer to where I live. We live an hour away so the commute can be a bit much. (Before anyone asks, we are military and referred to PAMF. The distance is a small sacrifice in the grand scheme of things.)
Describe the costs associated with your care under Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
The IVF estimate is $10k the medication/lab estimate is $5k. The labs and test so far have been covered by my insurance.
His approach with the transvaginal ultrasounds is extremely gentle! However, with two failed transfers, he and the coordinator didn't have much input except that it was within the expected odds. ... Frozen Embryo Transfers - estradiol and progesterone only. Two failed transfers. ... I felt like I really had to advocate for more testing and changes in protocol. ... Dr. Kim performed the transfer but was not my main doctor for that round of treatment. ... Fresh embryo transfer resulted in a live birth.
I think they [Palo Alto Medical Foundation] are behind on diagnostic testing options and genetic testing options for embryos. You pretty much have to go to Los Gatos (practically) for any egg retrieval and embryo transfer which can be inconvenient. ... [Nurse] Very responsive, but sometimes scheduling requests were not always granted and without explanation. ... Egg retrieval and fresh transfer: $17K insurance billed, $11K self pay Frozen transfer: $5.3K
How was your experience with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
His approach with the transvaginal ultrasounds is extremely gentle! However, with two failed transfers, he and the coordinator didn't have much input except that it was within the expected odds. I felt like I really had to advocate for more testing and changes in protocol.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
Do some research and be your own advocate.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
He is friendly and easy to talk to, but interactions were mainly with a patient coordinator.
Describe the protocols Alexis Kim used in your cycles at Palo Alto Medical Foundation and their degree of success.
Fresh embryo transfer resulted in a live birth. Dr. Kim performed the transfer but was not my main doctor for that round of treatment.
Frozen Embryo Transfers - estradiol and progesterone only. Two failed transfers.
Describe your experience with your nurse at Palo Alto Medical Foundation. (Assigned nurse: Kim)
Very responsive, but sometimes scheduling requests were not always granted and without explanation.
Describe your experience with Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
I think they are behind on diagnostic testing options and genetic testing options for embryos. You pretty much have to go to Los Gatos (practically) for any egg retrieval and embryo transfer which can be inconvenient.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
He [Alexis Kim] was very present when I saw him, but it felt like he was always very busy. We didn't ever feel like we had much time to talk, and had to make appointments far far in advance ... He's very methodical about this being a numbers game. Dr. Kim was straightforward with us, but also seemed a bit at a loss in the face of my emotion. He also doesn't seem comfortable with advancements in the field (supplements, PGS, altering retrieval protocols)
PAMF [Palo Alto Medical Foundation] is very busy and hard to get into. The first appointment was 3+ months away from my call, and I had to call them to check that they had received my referral. usually running late. nurses and surgical team were great, and all the doctors I saw were good, but I saw a lot of different doctors for ultrasounds. Really like the online care portal; very easy to get meds
How was your experience with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
He's very methodical about this being a numbers game. Dr. Kim was straightforward with us, but also seemed a bit at a loss in the face of my emotion. He also doesn't seem comfortable with advancements in the field (supplements, PGS, altering retrieval protocols)
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
be prepared for a lot of waiting time between calling for an appointment, consultation, and beginning treatment
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?
He was very present when I saw him, but it felt like he was always very busy. We didn't ever feel like we had much time to talk, and had to make appointments far far in advance
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
Very warm and caring
Describe your experience with Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
PAMF is very busy and hard to get into. The first appointment was 3+ months away from my call, and I had to call them to check that they had received my referral. usually running late. nurses and surgical team were great, and all the doctors I saw were good, but I saw a lot of different doctors for ultrasounds. Really like the online care portal; very easy to get meds
Describe the costs associated with your care under Alexis Kim at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
retrieval and fresh transfer were covered by insurance, so only medication copays and $35 copay per visit. Frozen transfer was ~$4k, hysteroscopy was ~2.5K
Describe Alexis Kim's approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at Palo Alto Medical Foundation.
He was very "here's what is allowed by the guidelines," and even offered to transfer 3 embryos given my age. But the decision was 100% up to us.
What specific things went wrong at Palo Alto Medical Foundation?