We have Male factor infertility, so my husband is now seeing a urologist. ... I feel he is very knowledgeable, and does spend a lot of time with his patients. He is a very kind Dr., and will pretty much do what you ask of him. And, if he doesn't know an answer, he will do his best to find out for you. ... For my egg retrieval he gave me gonal-f, menopur. And my trigger shot was ovidrel.
Our previous coordinator made a huge mistake with us. She didn't read our chart thoroughly and we had to cancel a transfer because of her. ... The clinic [MCRM] has poor communication with each other. The Dr and nursing staff are great, the office staff is helpful. At times, I feel like there is a lot of miscommunication in their billing department, about things that I need to pay out of pocket for and things that should be billed to insurance. ...
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I feel he is very knowledgeable, and does spend a lot of time with his patients. He is a very kind Dr., and will pretty much do what you ask of him. And, if he doesn't know an answer, he will do his best to find out for you.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He is a very smart man, and his statistics speak for themselves.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
At times I really feel like there is a break down of communication with their office and my husband and I. I feel like we have very poor follow up from their clinic. We have Male factor infertility, so my husband is now seeing a urologist. He has been under his care for 3 months. After his 1 month follow-up with the urologist, MCRM contacted us because they said he will need labs after he had just had them drawn and a SA. We hadn't heard from MCRM for at least 2 months, no check ins or anything. And it was like they were demanding that my husband have these tests done. So. I called the urologists office and they said, no it takes 3 months for Clomid to start working and he didn't need to have labs since he had just had them drawn. And when I called MCRM to let them know we'd just follow up with the urologist, they were a little irritated. But, we didn't feel it was necessary. We barely have any communication with them right now. No check ins or anything.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
For my egg retrieval he gave me gonal-f, menopur. And my trigger shot was ovidrel.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Courtney Mitan)
I have only communicated with her through email, but she is always prompt in responding back, and answers all my questions. She is always nice.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The clinic has poor communication with each other. The Dr and nursing staff are great, the office staff is helpful. At times, I feel like there is a lot of miscommunication in their billing department, about things that I need to pay out of pocket for and things that should be billed to insurance. I am so glad I now have coverage for infertility. Last year around this time my previous coordinator made a huge mistake. We had planned to do our transfer in December and the coordinator didn't realize that we had frozen eggs not embryos. Even though she had my chart (I think) and the office wasn't prepared to do our transfer. We didn't know my husband needed to see a urologist to do a work up for his azospermia. Super frustrating.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Had to pay out of pocket for some things that I didn't feel that we should have. I feel they are comparable to other clinics.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to call with results
Failed to send your chart to another clinic
Provided conflicting information
Canceled a cycle due to clinic error
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Our previous coordinator made a huge mistake with us. She didn't read our chart thoroughly and we had to cancel a transfer because of her. She was following embryo transfer protocol, did not know that we had frozen eggs. Totally lost confidence in her and the clinic that day. I now have a new coordinator and so far she's been great. My previous coordinator was Jennifer Farley.
[Dr. Peter Ahlering] does a really great job of focusing on the sperm issue...When doing virtual things get lost in translation...It means a lot to us to do a day 3 transfer vs a day 5 or 6. We have felt at times he tries to convince us to wait, but then says that he will do a day 3. So we just feel confused at times...We are a transfer from another clinic
Weaknesses [of MCRM Fertility] would be lack of communication in the beginning for virtual visit patients. Strengths would be everyone is always very positive even when a situation is frustrating. They have definitely tried to improve communication once we were able to actually go into the office...The nursing staff seems great- all communication has been through the portal so I have not spoken or met any of them yet. You switch from multiple different coordinators
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He does a really great job of focusing on the sperm issue, which is where we need the help. It means a lot to us to do a day 3 transfer vs a day 5 or 6. We have felt at times he tries to convince us to wait, but then says that he will do a day 3. So we just feel confused at times.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Make sure you go into the office for visits. When doing virtual things get lost in translation- we had no idea the process of testing/follow up/getting on the schedule because the form we were supposed to receive at our first visit we didn’t get until a month later.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
We are a transfer from another clinic, and I’m not sure if documentation from the past clinic was incorrect or it wasn’t read correctly but there were lots of times we had to correct what had happened with our previous cycles.
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The nursing staff seems great- all communication has been through the portal so I have not spoken or met any of them yet. You switch from multiple different coordinators which is confusing on who you are supposed to reach out to etc. not a lot of continuity of care.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Weaknesses would be lack of communication in the beginning for virtual visit patients.
Strengths would be everyone is always very positive even when a situation is frustrating. They have definitely tried to improve communication once we were able to actually go into the office and find out what we needed to know and that they were about to figure out what we didn’t know.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We have insurance coverage. There are many things not covered by insurance. Sperm processing is $1600 for the IVF cycle even with full coverage insurance. Sperm analysis is $150 (they won’t charge insurance) and $250 storage (will not charge insurance).
[Dr. Ahlering] seems very knowledgeable about procedures and will explain things well to you, but very obviously has a preference toward IVF, even when it is not what you need or want at the time. You aren't given other options unless if you specifically push and advocate for them...we spent many months tweaking the amount of Letrozole, Clomid, and Follistim (and ovidrel trigger shot too) to manipulate me to ovulate on time for 7 attempted IUIs, 3 of them that the procedure actually happened
The [MCRM Fertility] nursing staff was very flexible with timing of appointments, and even let us use some of their back up meds at the office when ours didn't arrive on time from the out of state pharmacy...They are flexible with scheduling, but due to their busyness, it feels a lot like an assembly line and you are a number, both during appointments and how they try to have all patients on the same timing and cycle for efficiency.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He seems very knowledgeable about procedures and will explain things well to you, but very obviously has a preference toward IVF, even when it is not what you need or want at the time. You aren't given other options unless if you specifically push and advocate for them.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Great if you are prepared to start IVF.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
We have been at MCRM from Oct 2020 - April 2022, and have spoken with Dr. Ahlering maybe 3 times, and it is only to push IVF, when we were not ready for that stage yet and it wasn't in the budget. There is not much empathy at the clinic either and even after a failed cycle, it is just them calling to give you the numbers, and schedule the next cycle, and let you know the billing department will be calling you soon. It seems very much like an assembly line.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I have PCOS, so have a hard time ovulating, so we spent many months tweaking the amount of Letrozole, Clomid, and Follistim (and ovidrel trigger shot too) to manipulate me to ovulate on time for 7 attempted IUIs, 3 of them that the procedure actually happened. (the other 4, either due to male factor infertility issues, or them still figuring out the med dosage for me, resulted in canceled IUI procedures the day of).
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The nursing staff was very flexible with timing of appointments, and even let us use some of their back up meds at the office when ours didn't arrive on time from the out of state pharmacy.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
They are flexible with scheduling, but due to their busyness, it feels a lot like an assembly line and you are a number, both during appointments and how they try to have all patients on the same timing and cycle for efficiency.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Over $1,000 per IUI procedure, plus the cost of appointments, ultrasounds, labs, and meds, and sperm analysis and collection.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
N/A
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Lost appointments
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Dr. Ahlering seems to care about his patients but he obviously has limited time and can’t spend forever answering questions...We usually feel put on the spot when asked if we have questions after hearing a lot of complicated and emotional information. So far we have liked Dr. Ahlering but our contact with him has been minimal...
Their [MCRM Fertility] strengths are that they’re really efficient and they always have someone to cover when staff are out of office. Many of their staff are really knowledgeable. Their areas for improvement are that the billing office seems to make lots of mistakes so you have to stay on top of double checking your billing codes and charges. They also have so many patients that it can feel like you’re on an assembly line....
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering seems to care about his patients but he obviously has limited time and can’t spend forever answering questions. MCRM seems to have a lot of customers and they’re very efficient but it does leave us feeling unsupported quite often. We usually feel put on the spot when asked if we have questions after hearing a lot of complicated and emotional information. So far we have liked Dr. Ahlering but our contact with him has been minimal.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be prepared to deal with a lot of different people along the way and know that the clinics in Tulsa/St. Louis share staff so there’s a huge volume of patients.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Everyone is mostly pretty responsive via the portal and they are very efficient. Everyone is friendly and kind. I will say the process isn’t super clear and there could be better communication while waiting for results and a follow up.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
We have only had our diagnostics, testing, and an initial consultation at this time. We are weighing our options financially. So I can’t speak to this part yet.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Leslie King)
Leslie is quick to answer and is generally very friendly and has lots of knowledge. I really like that she explains things in detail when asked.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Their strengths are that they’re really efficient and they always have someone to cover when staff are out of office. Many of their staff are really knowledgeable. Their areas for improvement are that the billing office seems to make lots of mistakes so you have to stay on top of double checking your billing codes and charges. They also have so many patients that it can feel like you’re on an assembly line.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
So far the most expensive part is sperm testing. Our labs were all covered and I just pay a copay at each visit. We received an entire pricing schedule upon arrival but we don’t yet know what our course of action is to know the cost.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
No comments.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Lost appointments
Provided conflicting information
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
My insurance told me IUI was covered on several occasions and they told me a couple times at MCRM that it was not. I had to send screenshots and a copy of my benefits to them to prove that it was covered.
I did not see Dr. Ahlering in person for any of my treatments as I was a patient in a satellite office. I felt like Dr. A was mostly just trying to get me to do IVF...I felt frustrated that they weren't able to provide more personalized treatment...I felt that my cycles were not taken very seriously, and that they were just checking off a box on the way to getting us to do IVF
There was a mixed level of competency. Many staff members [at MCRM Fertility] more or less assumed that I was married to a cis man when I went in for initial monitoring etc...They also recommend banking eggs for several retrievals with DOR, but that doesn't match up with current best evidence for treatment strategies on maximizing embryo creation. I felt frustrated that they weren't able to provide more personalized treatment.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I appreciated Dr. Ahlering making time for additional consultations outside of his normal schedule, as they clinic was very in demand at the time we were trying to get started with treatment. I did not see Dr. Ahlering in person for any of my treatments as I was a patient in a satellite office. I felt like Dr. A was mostly just trying to get me to do IVF.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be prepared with all your questions ahead of time, but know that any questions outside of treatments will probably have to go through a coordinator or financial counselor.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I felt that my cycles were not taken very seriously, and that they were just checking off a box on the way to getting us to do IVF
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I had 4 IUI cycles, all of which started with Letrozole or Clomid, then Follistim for egg maturation. Most cycles I was instructed to trigger when my follicles were still quite small, and then go back in for the IUI 36 hours after triggering. They never did bloodwork outside of CD3 baseline and HCG tests (which were on the early side at 9 and 11 dpo for 3 of 4 cycles), so we did not have bloodwork to monitor what was happening during stims.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Leslie)
Leslie was very personable, but I had trouble actually getting answers to my questions about certain aspects of my care. When I inquired about the timing of HCG testing (which seemed quite early for IUI compared to what I've heard from other patients receiving similar treatment) she just told me that's the way they did it, and was not flexible with me about putting off testing a few extra days.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
One of the hardest things for me about being a patient at MCRM was how much everything was constrained by the hours of operation. I often felt that my cycles were triggered early or on the late side to avoid IUI on the weekend. I also decided against moving forward with IVF with this clinic in part because they have all patients take birth control to control their cycle and have them cycle on a schedule. While this may work well for some diagnoses, with my DOR, I felt it would oversuppress my egg maturation/ovulation. They also recommend banking eggs for several retrievals with DOR, but that doesn't match up with current best evidence for treatment strategies on maximizing embryo creation. I felt frustrated that they weren't able to provide more personalized treatment.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
$250 each for CD3 and mid-cycle ultrasounds, $750-$1,000 for IUI. IUI cost changed in the middle of our 2nd or 3rd cycle with no heads up.
How competent was MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) at LGBTQ+ care?
There was a mixed level of competency. Many staff members more or less assumed that I was married to a cis man when I went in for initial monitoring etc. I had a hard time getting answers to questions about directed donor sperm when I was starting care as well. However, I didn't encounter any hostility.
Describe your experience using 3rd party reproduction (donor eggs, donor sperm, or gestational carrier) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
After much back and forth, I was able to waive the quarantine on our directed donor's banked sperm, which I appreciated. I handled coordinating the shipment of our sperm vials to MCRM from our NYC based bank myself.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering was very knowledgeable and thorough with his explanations of procedures. He was always very kind and had excellent bedside manner before and after each procedure, but very brief. He was very respectful and gentle throughout the procedures...Dr. Ahlering was VERY adamant about a single embryo transfer. He did not recommend a multiple embryo transfer due to it's high-risk of complications. He did say that if his patients still wanted to transfer multiple embryos that he would oblige them.
Scheduling was wonderful [at MCRM Fertility], however their eIVF portal used for coorespondence was slow and had several issues at times. While we primarily visited the Chesterfield office, due to relocating to Texas we concluded out transfer and cycle at the Tulsa location. We wish that we had been able to use the Tulsa office the whole time. Their facility seemed more welcoming and it was a much calmer environment.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering was very knowledgeable and thorough with his explanations of procedures. He was always very kind and had excellent bedside manner before and after each procedure, but very brief. He was very respectful and gentle throughout the procedures.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
To stay optimistic and don't hesitate to visit other clinics for initial consults
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
It seemed as though once we signed all of the paperwork for finances, our coordinator was too busy for our questions. We tried to switch coordinators, but due to our coordinator being the only one who handles RIVF cases we were unable to do so. We no longer received the attention and enthusiasm as we did before.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Shawnee Hurt)
The nursing staff was typically very swift with their duties. Our care coordinator was also earning her nursing license and was limited with her schedule and availability when we would have questions and would often have another coordinator handle our needs.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Scheduling was wonderful, however their eIVF portal used for coorespondence was slow and had several issues at times. While we primarily visited the Chesterfield office, due to relocating to Texas we concluded out transfer and cycle at the Tulsa location. We wish that we had been able to use the Tulsa office the whole time. Their facility seemed more welcoming and it was a much calmer environment.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Dr. Ahlering was VERY adamant about a single embryo transfer. He did not recommend a multiple embryo transfer due to it's high-risk of complications. He did say that if his patients still wanted to transfer multiple embryos that he would oblige them.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to call with results
Provided conflicting information
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We had several issues with their eIVF portal and communication with our coordinator at times.
Dr. Ahlering was extremely thorough and it's clear why he is one of the best doctors. He is very knowledgeable, has a lot of compassion and understanding for his patients, and takes time with you during most appointments. I did sometimes feel confused and like I had to advocate for myself because there are so many patients and he is often busy. I didn't always feel like I had all of the answers to my issues, like why our embryos were poor quality or why I kept miscarrying. I would have liked more testing done on me without me having to research it myself and figure it all out myself...
MCRM is professional, compassionate, and accomodating. One thing they could do better is help their patients understand the process (especially if they are brand new to the fertility world). I often felt that I had to be my own advocate and had to do a lot of research on my own first. I think they are very good with getting great results for MOST patients, but I would have preferred a more personal approach...The nursing staff was really kind but sometimes lacked communication...
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering was extremely thorough and it's clear why he is one of the best doctors. He is very knowledgeable, has a lot of compassion and understanding for his patients, and takes time with you during most appointments. I did sometimes feel confused and like I had to advocate for myself because there are so many patients and he is often busy. I didn't always feel like I had all of the answers to my issues, like why our embryos were poor quality or why I kept miscarrying. I would have liked more testing done on me without me having to research it myself and figure it all out myself.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I would suggest asking many questions and doing a lot of testing before going through treatment.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I didn't always feel like my care was tailored to me, but everyone at the clinic was very kind and helpful.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I think we did the standard protocol for every female patient. We did use the embryoscope as an add-on, but it was included in the price for us. The results were the same each time, which is why I wanted more testing done in between failures and miscarriages. I think because my husband had Male Factor, they didn't look too deeply into my cycle or potential issues.
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The nursing staff was really kind but sometimes lacked communication.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
MCRM is professional, compassionate, and accomodating. One thing they could do better is help their patients understand the process (especially if they are brand new to the fertility world). I often felt that I had to be my own advocate and had to do a lot of research on my own first. I think they are very good with getting great results for MOST patients, but I would have preferred a more personal approach.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We paid about 10k for the retrieval and 5k for each transfer (x3).
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
My doctor was very clear on what he believed would result in the best outcome. He usually chose 1 embryo over 2.
I told him [Dr. Ahlering] repeatedly throughout the entire process I was in incredible pain. He dismissed all of my symptoms. I am still dealing with recovering physically 6 months post retrieval. He set very high expectations for which he was confident in achieving in just one cycle. Afterwards, he completely flipped the switch stating he would probably need 5-6 cycles...
MCRM feels like a big factory farm...I think they cycle as many people as possible to make the most money possible which is not in your best interest if anything goes wrong ( which in my case did)...I would ask how many patients they cycle at one time...They did not order enough medication for stimulation shots which resulted in me having to cut doses at the end because they had not given me enough time to get the medication
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr Ahlering's motto appears to be "profits before people." I told him repeatedly throughout the entire process I was in incredible pain. He dismissed all of my symptoms. I am still dealing with recovering physically 6 months post retrieval. He set very high expectations for which he was confident in achieving in just one cycle. Afterwards, he completely flipped the switch stating he would probably need 5-6 cycles. I do not trust that anything he ever said was the truth and caught him in at least two bold faced lies.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I would ask how many patients they cycle at one time. The coordinators clearly cannot handle the large work load and Dr Ahlering knew NOTHING about our file/medications in our post retrieval meeting that resulted in producing not one embroyo.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
MCRM feels like a big factory farm. Staff runs around like chickens with their heads cut off, providing horrible care and misinformation. "Dr" Ahlering is unreachable and dismissive.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
Birth control for about 14 days then stimulation shots followed by a trigger shot.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Lindsay )
Lindsay apparently is incompetent at her job and unable to keep up with the high workload. When I complained of my horrible pain and asked for guidance, she responded "office is closed on the weekends." The epitome of great health care!
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
In my experience, Dr Ahlering and MCRM are all about money. They did not care about my health , their terrible results ( after verbally promising the world), nor about wasting our hard earned money. Dr Ahlering knew NOTHING about our file or our medication list in our post retrieval meeting. When my husband pressed what he would do differently, his eyes were wide and he said "I don't know I have not reviewed your medication list." So why are we even having this meeting? I think they cycle as many people as possible to make the most money possible which is not in your best interest if anything goes wrong ( which in my case did). I would steer clear.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Pretty high considering it's one of the most poorly ran businesses I've ever seen.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I would not know. He could not even produce one viable embroyo after over promising the world.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to order appropriate test
Failed to send your chart to another clinic
Lost results
Provided conflicting information
Failed to convey critical information
Failed to consider drug intolerance
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
They did not order enough medication for stimulation shots which resulted in me having to cut doses at the end because they had not given me enough time to get the medication.
Dr. Ahlering is a good fertility doctor, but I was disappointed he only gave me the average statistics for the success of IVF in his clinic, and did not fully discuss MY likelihood of success given my specific physiology (thin endometrial lining). He did not seem to be able to understand my frustration or hesitancy to undergo more treatments...don't expect a personal touch...prefers single embryo transfers...
They [MCRM Fertility] use pretty much the same protocol on all pts, and start all IVF patients on the same cycle day each month. Allows for cheaper cycles, but you definitely feel like just one of the pack being processed...They [nurses] were all very compassionate and encouraging, and able to answer my questions...When I requested my records they told me I'd have to pay per page. After moving to another state, I had my new fertility clinic request records, and MCRM never sent them....
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering is a good fertility doctor, but I was disappointed he only gave me the average statistics for the success of IVF in his clinic, and did not fully discuss MY likelihood of success given my specific physiology (thin endometrial lining). He did not seem to be able to understand my frustration or hesitancy to undergo more treatments.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
It's good quality treatment, especially if paying out-of-pocket, but don't expect a personal touch. I'd probably choose his partner if I did it again.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
very high through-put clinic. They use pretty much the same protocol on all pts, and start all IVF patients on the same cycle day each month. Allows for cheaper cycles, but you definitely feel like just one of the pack being processed.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I really don't remember the specifics. I never had any trouble making eggs, the problem was getting the embryos to stick and grow in my thin lining.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I had 2 or 3 coordinators during my time w/ Dr. A. 1 for IUI, 1 for egg retrieval, and I think a third for embryo transfer (might have been the same as for egg retrival... I don't remember). They were all very compassionate and encouraging, and able to answer my questions and deal with my moodiness (yay hormones!).
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
strengths: good price (for out-of-pocket), nice atmosphere, runs on time, labs on-site, after-hours phone line available
weaknesses: you feel like one of many, just being run through the protocol (esp for egg retrieval cycles), they make you use their online system for communication (messaging) and medication protocols, and it stinks.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I don't remember the cost, but everything was out-of-pocket and a packaged deal. They were mostly up-front with the costs, but I did feel a little nickle-and-dimed with some of the US monitoring on failed cycles, and on the meds.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
He definitely prefers single embryo transfers and has good reasons behind it. I felt like he educated me on the clinical rationale behind his preference, and I came to agree with him.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to send your chart to another clinic
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
When I requested my records they told me I'd have to pay per page. After moving to another state, I had my new fertility clinic request records, and MCRM never sent them.
After our initial consultation with Dr. Ahlering, my husband and I both had many labs drawn. ... we had 2 beautiful Normal embryos to work with. We transferred both embryos and ended up miss carrying at 5.5 weeks. With our most recent Retrieval, Dr. Ahlering changed up my protocol. ...Doctor Ahlering is kind, very detail oriented, has the best bedside manner, sends you messages on the portal
Everyone at MCRM is friendly and makes you feel cared for. I feel that they value your time and schedule your appointments in a way so that you aren’t sitting in the waiting room for very long. The receptionist is always friendly and has her paperwork organized and ready to go when you arrive for your appointment. All in all I am so pleased with MCRM and I will never switch to any other fertility clinic.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Doctor Ahlering is kind, very detail oriented, has the best bedside manner, sends you messages on the portal just to check in to see how you’re doing, he listens without knocking down ideas you may have, and he shares so much knowledge with you. He is honestly the best best doctor I have ever worked with. Hands down the best fertility specialist in the St. Louis area!
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be ready to get your questions answered. He goes over everything with you in such detail! Also, don’t be afraid to ask him any question you may have.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering is so kind and so full of knowledge. He never rushes appointments with him and always answers questions when asked. He also listens to my concerns as a patient.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
After our initial consultation with Dr. Ahlering, my husband and I both had many labs drawn. My husband also had a very in depth semen analysis done. These tests answered questions that other fertility specialists failed to answer. After gathering all the useful data, MCRM presents a report to you and your partner that applies to the outlook/success rates of the infertility treatments. This was so nice to see our realistic chances. With our first egg retrieval we retrieved 17 eggs, 16 fertilized, 6 made it to day 6 and had genetic testing done to them. They results from the genetic testing came back and we had 2 beautiful Normal embryos to work with. We transferred both embryos and ended up miss carrying at 5.5 weeks. With our most recent Retrieval, Dr. Ahlering changed up my protocol. He added Omnitrope and upped my Menopur and Follistim dosages. This resulted in 30 eggs retrieved! 24 of those eggs were mature, and we are in the midst of getting our final numbers this week!
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen Hoelting)
Jen is very organized. She answers all of my questions promptly. She is great to work with and has been my coordinator for both retrieval’s I’ve had done with Dr. Ahlering.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Everyone at MCRM is friendly and makes you feel cared for. I feel that they value your time and schedule your appointments in a way so that you aren’t sitting in the waiting room for very long. The receptionist is always friendly and has her paperwork organized and ready to go when you arrive for your appointment. All in all I am so pleased with MCRM and I will never switch to any other fertility clinic.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We went with the Gold package with each egg retrieval. I do not remember the exact cost but it is comparable with other doctors in the area
He [Dr. Ahlering] told us he didn’t think IUI would be beneficial for us and would only very minimally increase our chances of conception after 2 failed timed intercourse cycles. He said he felt the minimal increase was not worth the added cost of doing an IUI. We agreed. We began a 3rd timed intercourse cycle. Later that day, his PA stated that he recommended we try at least 2 IUIs if our 3rd timed intercourse cycle failed. We questioned this as he had just told us that he didn’t recommend IUI.
The staff at the front desk [of MCRM] is frequently rude...They are exceptionally hard to get records from, even after you have paid for them. I paid $32.89 for 17 pages of my medical record. I requested the full record; however, I was only sent partial labs and imaging reports...their contact for medical records, stated that they do not send consultation or progress notes with the record because it is the physician’s prospective on the patient. She also stated that she printed off my husband’s semen analysis, put it with our record, and gave it to Dr. Ahlering (I suppose for him to approve?) after we requested our records and he removed the semen analysis report before giving the record back to her. She noticed this, did not question where the report went, and mailed our record without it. When I called to ask where the rest of our record was, she said Dr. Ahlering was out of town and she would have to ask him about it the next day. The next day, she said she would mail us “some notes from our record” and the SA report. She said the medications, dosages, and treatment plans were proprietary to their facility and they would not be released to myself or my new doctor. After telling her that I would check with my new doctor and the US Department of Health and Human Services to see if this was standard practice, she advised that I could print flowsheets off of the patient portal with the treatment information. I did not receive a refund for the missing information, nor would I have paid $32.89 for my records if I would have known that I would only be receiving partial labs from an outside facility and ultrasound reports. I will know in a few days if I actually get the SA report and “some notes from my record” in the mail.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
My first impression of Dr. Ahlering was that he seemed like a car salesman. Out of desperation for a baby, we decided to give him a chance and start treatment immediately rather than wait for another consultation with a different doctor. I fully regret this decision. We met with Dr. Ahlering once and had 3 phone conversations with him. He and the office are (for lack of a better word) exceptionally shady. I feel like he is just out to make money and does not truly care about his patient’s success. I also feel like there has been retaliation against us for leaving their practice and seeing a different specialist.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Do not go to MCRM Fertility for any reason. Do not see Dr. Ahlering. I 100% regret my decision to receive treatment from this physician.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering and his staff gave us conflicting information regarding his recommendations for our care. He told us he didn’t think IUI would be beneficial for us and would only very minimally increase our chances of conception after 2 failed timed intercourse cycles. He said he felt the minimal increase was not worth the added cost of doing an IUI. We agreed. We began a 3rd timed intercourse cycle. Later that day, his PA stated that he recommended we try at least 2 IUIs if our 3rd timed intercourse cycle failed. We questioned this as he had just told us that he didn’t recommend IUI. We were instructed to set up a phone call with Dr. Ahlering to discuss the conflicting information. He called over 1.5 hours after the scheduled time and stated that we were “all speaking the same language” and that an IUI would not benefit us. Clearly, he and his PA were not speaking the same language. He refuses to forward any of his consultation or progress notes to my new doctor and his staff states that all records of treatment plans, prescribed medications and dosages are proprietary information specific to their facility (rather than the individualized care they claim to provide) and they also won’t release those records. The only records they are willing to release are lab results and ultrasound reports. This leads me to question if there even is any documentation regarding my care. They do not seem to see myself or my husband as human beings trying to grow our family, but rather as an enemy for daring to question them.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
We did one timed intercourse cycle with 7.5 mg letrozole for 5 days. Midcycle scan showed follicles not large enough to trigger. Started letrozole 7.5 mg again for 5 days. Second midcycle scan showed mature follicles. Triggered with Ovidrel and then proceeded with TI. Second cycle we did 5 days of 10 mg letrozole and added 3 injections of 50 units Gonal-F. Midcycle scan showed follicles were not mature. We were instructed to use 75 units of Gonal-F for 2 days and then the remainder of what was in the pen the 3rd day (about 50 units). Second midcycle scan showed several mature follicles. Risks of multiples were discussed and we triggered with Ovidrel that evening and proceeded with TI. For our third cycle we used 10 mg letrozole for 7 days, one day of 150 units Gonal-F, followed by 75 units Gonal-F the next 2 days. Midcycle scan showed mature follicles and we triggered with Ovidrel and proceeded with TI. We were unsuccessful each time.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Christina Romacker)
Christina seems to care about her patients. She seems like a good person. I don’t have anything bad to say about her.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The staff at the front desk is frequently rude, not only to myself, but also other patients. They are exceptionally hard to get records from, even after you have paid for them. I paid $32.89 for 17 pages of my medical record. I requested the full record; however, I was only sent partial labs and imaging reports. Michelle Brinkmeyer, who is their contact for medical records, stated that they do not send consultation or progress notes with the record because it is the physician’s prospective on the patient. She also stated that she printed off my husband’s semen analysis, put it with our record, and gave it to Dr. Ahlering (I suppose for him to approve?) after we requested our records and he removed the semen analysis report before giving the record back to her. She noticed this, did not question where the report went, and mailed our record without it. When I called to ask where the rest of our record was, she said Dr. Ahlering was out of town and she would have to ask him about it the next day. The next day, she said she would mail us “some notes from our record” and the SA report. She said the medications, dosages, and treatment plans were proprietary to their facility and they would not be released to myself or my new doctor. After telling her that I would check with my new doctor and the US Department of Health and Human Services to see if this was standard practice, she advised that I could print flowsheets off of the patient portal with the treatment information. I did not receive a refund for the missing information, nor would I have paid $32.89 for my records if I would have known that I would only be receiving partial labs from an outside facility and ultrasound reports. I will know in a few days if I actually get the SA report and “some notes from my record” in the mail.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I had no insurance coverage. Each ultrasound was $250. Medications costs were around $370 each cycle.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Lost appointments
Failed to call with results
Failed to send your chart to another clinic
Provided conflicting information
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
There was one instance where my nurse sent the wrong dosage of my prescription to the pharmacy. I caught the mistake at the pharmacy and it was corrected.
He [Dr. Ahlering] prefers to transfer one but said he would be fine with me transferring two...I didn’t feel like the original consultation was based on my issues but general issues... is extremely intelligent. He knows what he’s doing and you can see that he’s passionate about helping people have a baby. When I went in for my first appointment he followed back up with me rather than getting a nurse to reach out. I appreciated that...I had a very basic IVF protocol. It unfortunately ended in no normal embryos. They started with BC. Then did STIMS for 9 days and had my egg retrieval.
I had a horrible experience with the Finance dept [at MCRM] and it made me feel like they just wanted my money...I had a very basic IVF protocol. It unfortunately ended in no normal embryos. They started with BC. Then did STIMS for 9 days and had my egg retrieval...I have nothing but great things to say about Lindsay [nurse]. When we found out I had zero normal embryos I could tell she was upset too. She made me feel like she genuinely cared that my heart was breaking. She followed up with me a few days later to make sure I was ok. It meant a lot to me that she did that.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering is extremely intelligent. He knows what he’s doing and you can see that he’s passionate about helping people have a baby. When I went in for my first appointment he followed back up with me rather than getting a nurse to reach out. I appreciated that.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
That it’s ok to ask questions. You are spending a lot of money. Do not allow your appointment to be rushed. Get all the information you need before you leave.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I had a horrible experience with the Finance dept and it made me feel like they just wanted my money. I didn’t feel like the original consultation was based on my issues but general issues.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I had a very basic IVF protocol. It unfortunately ended in no normal embryos. They started with BC. Then did STIMS for 9 days and had my egg retrieval.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Lindsay Van Winkle)
I have nothing but great things to say about Lindsay. When we found out I had zero normal embryos I could tell she was upset too. She made me feel like she genuinely cared that my heart was breaking. She followed up with me a few days later to make sure I was ok. It meant a lot to me that she did that.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The clinic is beautiful. The staff is friendly besides Mel in finance. I almost didn’t move forward with the clinic because of her. Then she was rude the day before my retrieval when I called to ask a question about my down payment. She was great the original meeting. Once I put my down payment she no longer had to be nice. I have great things to say about everyone besides Mel.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I luckily have insurance. My insurance didn’t cover the genetic testing-2,500
The deposit-2,000 (not sure why you need a deposit)..The medication 3,400. We also paid out of pocket an additional 1,500 for other services like nano beads and sperm selection.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
He prefers to transfer one but said he would be fine with me transferring two.
[Dr. Peter Ahlering] is very knowledgeable and wants to do the best option for his patients instead of just out for the money and not caring...He makes us feel comfortable...After we did 2 unsuccessful rounds of IUI Dr. Ahlering suggested that we get an HSG test done to see if my tubes were blocked. so I went to my OBGYN and had an HSG test done and according to that they were not blocked so we continued with two more rounds of IUI after the next 2 more unsuccessful rounds of IUI Dr. Ahlering suggested that we do an exploratory laproscopy to see about any underlining cause as to why the IUI's had not worked.
whole staff [at MCRM] from dealing with my husbands male factor to doing our IUI cycles have been amazing!...She [nurse] will email us periodically checking in on us and asking how we are, she is always a phone call or email away and answers quickly if we ever need anything. Ceara our PA that actually done our IUI transfers she is very sweet and caring as well. She explains the results of my husbands wash and how much sperm count he had left after the wash and takes her time and explains what she is about to do when she is doing the IUI and asks if I am alright while she is doing it.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Our experience with Dr. Ahlering has been great. He is very knowledgeable and explains our situation and what he thinks is the best treatment from our diagnosis. He does say things sometimes that is over our heads but we ask him to explain it in our form lol, he does not get mad or hesitate to explain things in our way of understanding. He takes his time with you and wants to make sure we understand fully and will answer any questions or concerns we have. He makes us feel comfortable.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
If they are looking for a good infertility doctor he is the one to go too. He is good and knows what he is doing. don't hesitate to ask questions or talk about concerns. He makes you feel comfortable.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
When we had out first initial consolation appointment with Dr. Ahlering he took us into his office, he listened and went over all of our first steps ad options for going forward. He took his time, did not rush us out of there and really treats his patients like humans and cares for them. He is very knowledgeable and wants to do the best option for his patients instead of just out for the money and not caring. His whole staff from dealing with my husbands male factor to doing our IUI cycles have been amazing! We are truly grateful for MCRM! :) Praying to be able to do an IVF cycle with him soon and it being successful.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
With my PCOS the fertility medicine I took leading up to my 4 IUI cycles were:
-Letrozole pills
- Gonal F shots
-Ovidrel shot
On the day of IUI we went to the clinic and they did a Sperm wash on my husbands semen because he has a morphology issue then two hours later we did the IUI.
After the IUI I would lay on the table for 15-20 minutes then a few days later I would have to put prometrium inside my vagina for 2 weeks until I went and did my blood work to see if I was pregnant.
After we did 2 unsuccessful rounds of IUI Dr. Ahlering suggested that we get an HSG test done to see if my tubes were blocked. so I went to my OBGYN and had an HSG test done and according to that they were not blocked so we continued with two more rounds of IUI after the next 2 more unsuccessful rounds of IUI Dr. Ahlering suggested that we do an exploratory laproscopy to see about any underlining cause as to why the IUI's had not worked. So my OBGYN did the laparoscopy and we discovered that I had some past PID damage and that my tubes were not fully blocked but he only way anything could get thru them was to be forced that is why we got a false reading from the HSG test with the dye being forced thru them.
We gave Dr. Ahlering all the results and met with him and talked about our next step, we are now to the point of an IVF cycle which we have not been able to afford, IUI will no longer work for us.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Christina Romacker )
Out primary nurse Christina is very sweet and caring she has talked to us about her infertility situation and has compassion for her patients. She is always on top of everything when we have done our IUI cycles and gets us the right medicine and has it sent to our pharmacy so its ready when we get there. She will email us periodically checking in on us and asking how we are, she is always a phone call or email away and answers quickly if we ever need anything.
Ceara our PA that actually done our IUI transfers she is very sweet and caring as well. She explains the results of my husbands wash and how much sperm count he had left after the wash and takes her time and explains what she is about to do when she is doing the IUI and asks if I am alright while she is doing it.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The clinic is very clean and bright and the staff is friendly and caring. They are all there to help you get your dream family and make you feel comfortable. Our first IUI we were a little confused on where my husband did the sperm wash and which desk to see to get checked in for my part of the IUI but they were very nice and directed us where to go for my husband and where to get checked in for my part.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
For everything including ultrasounds, sperm wash, IUI, and medicine was around 2000 each cycle.
Dr. Ahlering has been professional, knowledgeable, and an open-book...He always answers with evidence based research and does not hesitate to repeat a diagnostic procedure if results were unclear...-full lab workup for partner and myself -Clomid and thyriod medication for partner -continue with vitamin regimen as desired -ultrasound for myself to assess follicle count, tubes, uterine lining, and health of reproductive anatomy -ultrasound for partner to assess for varicocele -repeat SA as needed
Our initial visit with the financial department [at MCRM] shared basic information for 1 IVF cycle. After more diagnostic testing, were were given other options of packages. All options were ok, we just didn't know there was a possibility of other options. We so weren't aware that certain discounts would not apply under a package vs a single cycle...-IVF package quoted at $29,500. We have not yet undergone this process. -roughly $1,000 out of pocket expenses so far with diagnostic testing
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering has been professional, knowledgeable, and an open-book. There are tines I wish I knew more information, so I ask. He always answers with evidence based research and does not hesitate to repeat a diagnostic procedure if results were unclear.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Take your plan step by step. It's ok to know what you don't know.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
At times, certain diagnostic results require normative data. At times, sitting face to face with the doctor is what you need. Data drives treatment as well as bedside manner. Both have necessary roles.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
-full lab workup for partner and myself
-Clomid and thyriod medication for partner
-continue with vitamin regimen as desired
-ultrasound for myself to assess follicle count, tubes, uterine lining, and health of reproductive anatomy
-ultrasound for partner to assess for varicocele
-repeat SA as needed
Describe your experience with the nursing staff at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The nursing staff had been quick to respond, present professionally and compassionately. At times, I am unclear if my appointment is done ore if I am needing to be see for something else.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Strengths: science, confidentiality, compassionate, great location
Weakness: financial information was not the most forthcoming. It required us to ask intricate questions to assure we had a clear understanding.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
-IVF package quoted at $29,500. We have not yet undergone this process.
-roughly $1,000 out of pocket expenses so far with diagnostic testing
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We asked about the science behind 1 embryo vs multiple and Dr. Ahlering shared information about age, egg quality, risk of multiples during pregnancy.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to inform you of changes in protocol
Provided conflicting information
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Our initial visit with the financial department shared basic information for 1 IVF cycle. After more diagnostic testing, were were given other options of packages. All options were ok, we just didn't know there was a possibility of other options. We so weren't aware that certain discounts would not apply under a package vs a single cycle.
Dr. Ahlering is extremely knowledgeable and caring. You could tell he was extremely sincere. He was right about everything he predicted. We were concerned we needed a sperm donor and he assured us that wasn’t necessary and he was correct. ... He recommended egg banking due to my husband’s severe DNA fragmentation and my low reserve so we would have several chances at making healthy embryos.
They [MCRM] organize fun family events and meet and greets where patients can meet each other and talk to Dr. Ahlering. They are always extremely friendly and quick to respond. I had an easy time working with the finance department as well ... Jen Atkinson was my retrieval coordinator and she was amazing! ... Courtney Mitan was my transfer coordinator and she is so kind and compassionate.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering is extremely knowledgeable and caring. You could tell he was extremely sincere. He was right about everything he predicted. We were concerned we needed a sperm donor and he assured us that wasn’t necessary and he was correct. This is truly his passion! We drove 6 hours every time to meet with him because he was so much better than our local clinic.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Voice your concerns to him. He’s patient and understanding and will be very straight forward with you.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I felt like a human because Dr. Ahlering was ALWAYS so patient and so kind. He went into so much detail explaining everything to me. I never felt rushed. I would schedule a call with him when we felt concerned and he always had the ability to calm us down.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
He recommended egg banking due to my husband’s severe DNA fragmentation and my low reserve so we would have several chances at making healthy embryos.
Meds: Omnitrope, Gonal F, Lupron+Pregnyl dual trigger, Menopur, Cetrotide, Estrace, PIO, Endometrin, Vivelle patches
We also did two months of Lupron therapy prior to first transfer. 2nd transfer we did a modified Lupron therapy for about a month before and they changed my progesterone protocol to taking the inserts every day instead of every other. PIO until week 9
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen Atkinson and Courtney Mitan )
Jen Atkinson was my retrieval coordinator and she was amazing! She was super organized and would call me often to touch base. Love her. I actually miss her.
Courtney Mitan was my transfer coordinator and she is so kind and compassionate. She constantly checked in on me to check how I was doing and always answered all 1,000 of my questions. She became a friend to me!
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Jen Bader is the patient coordinator and she does a great job and connecting patients with other patients and making everyone feel like a family.
They organize fun family events and meet and greets where patients can meet each other and talk to Dr. Ahlering. They are always extremely friendly and quick to respond. I had an easy time working with the finance department as well
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
For our first transfer Dr. A recommended only one embryo and we understood his reasons why. For our 2nd transfer we were transparent and said we couldn’t afford two more transfers and meds and also couldn’t handle the stress of two more transfers. He was supportive and was on board with transferring 2 PGS normals.
With each IUI cycle it was the same ... Dr. Ahlering always took the time with consultations to explain things and provide answers to all your questions. He makes his patients feel comfortable at all times during procedures and explains everything he's doing. ... He not only answered all my questions and explained everything to myself but he ensured my husband got all his questions answered.
There was issues it seemed like when my donor would go in to drop off paperwork or fill out paperwork. ... MCRM has some of the state of the art technology and is constantly updating and adding to make things better. They expanded their offices. The front desk person always greeting you with a smile. Sometimes the billing was behind several months and would bill you 3 or 4 months after things took place.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering truly cares for his patients and does whatever in his power to ensure the outcome they want. Even though we were not successful with obtaining pregnancy. Dr. Ahlering always took the time with consultations to explain things and provide answers to all your questions. He makes his patients feel comfortable at all times during procedures and explains everything he's doing. Not only did he make myself feel comfortable with him but he made my husband feel as comfortable as well. He not only answered all my questions and explained everything to myself but he ensured my husband got all his questions answered.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Ask questions, no questions is stupid or dumb.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I truly felt like everyone cared for your care and your outcome and make you feel like a person and not a number. Everyone was always so friendly and made sure you were taken care of and if you needed anything
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
With each IUI cycle it was the same...Letrozole, Follistum, insemination, progesterone, then hcg blood draws 2 weeks later.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Shawnie Hurt)
Shawnie was always helpful, caring and compassionate. She was very knowledgeable about process and procedures and all FDA regulations. She was patient with us when it was taking a very long time for our donor to get his things done, never did she rush us to get things done or pressure us in any way. It seemed like when we were at our lowest she knew how to make things a bit better.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
MCRM has some of the state of the art technology and is constantly updating and adding to make things better. They expanded their offices. The front desk person always greeting you with a smile. Sometimes the billing was behind several months and would bill you 3 or 4 months after things took place. They have great resources including a Facebook group for patients to communicate with each other.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We had no benefits for health insurance and had to pay for everything out of pocket. Some things they would bill the insurance company and then bill us later. All 3 IUI's were paid for out of pocket.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Lost paperwork
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
There was issues it seemed like when my donor would go in to drop off paperwork or fill out paperwork. I'm not sure who was responsible or if there was miscommunication between the front desk, my coordinator, and us or what the case may have been. It always seemed to get fixed quickly.
I was surprised when I met Dr. Ahlering for the first time. He is the most compassionate, kind and down to earth doctor I've ever had. He listened to mine and my husband's concerns and questions and answered everything clearly until we fully understood.... Be ready to talk and listen to Dr. Ahlering. Your appointment won't be a quick appointment like every other doctor appointment.
Christina [a nurse at MCRM- Chesterfield] is the best! She was always so compassionate and helpful during stressful cycles. Even though we didn't have any success after 4 IUIs she still sends us emails asking how life is going and always reassuring us she's here for us. She is one of the reasons we will go back when we are ready... I love this clinic. Expect to be greeted by happy, kind and smiling staff. It's very clean and a positive environment. I almost never had to wait in the waiting room before my appointment which was always nice. I honestly don't have a single weakness to list.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I was surprised when I met Dr. Ahlering for the first time. He is the most compassionate, kind and down to earth doctor I've ever had. He listened to mine and my husband's concerns and questions and answered everything clearly until we fully understood.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be ready to talk and listen to Dr. Ahlering. Your appointment won't be a quick appointment like every other doctor appointment.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Every time I met with my doctor or nurses they always remembered me by name. I wasn't just another case to them. Even though we didn't have success and are on a break from treatment right now, I still get personalized emails from my nurse asking how my husband and I are doing. It brings a smile to my face every time knowing how much they still care and they are still here for us.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Christina Romacker)
Christina is the best! She was always so compassionate and helpful during stressful cycles. Even though we didn't have any success after 4 IUIs she still sends us emails asking how life is going and always reassuring us she's here for us. She is one of the reasons we will go back when we are ready.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I love this clinic. Expect to be greeted by happy, kind and smiling staff. It's very clean and a positive environment. I almost never had to wait in the waiting room before my appointment which was always nice. I honestly don't have a single weakness to list.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I was able to apply for 50% off medication but nothing else was covered under my insurance. Each IUI procedure was $500. Ultrasounds and bloodwork were additional costs. I think all together for 4 IUI cylces, it was close to $5,000. We were also able to do a payment plan.
Dr. Ahlering completes all the ultrasounds, retrievals, and transfers himself and will spend time talking to you and answering any questions you have including doing phone consults if you live away from the main clinic or any of the satellite clinics... He remembers things you've spoken of months later and customizes your treatment to you, along with making adjustments to later treatments if previous cycles did not respond how you and he wanted.
We live over 2000 miles from this clinic [MCRM], but believe so much in them, that we plan to use them in further treatments to provide our son siblings.... The clinic and staff are very well run and wonderfully caring. The only real issue we have had was with billing, and they were still very understanding it just took a bit of time to straighten things out. Part of this was because of miscommunication and misunderstanding, but as I said, they were still very patient.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering completes all the ultrasounds, retrievals, and transfers himself and will spend time talking to you and answering any questions you have including doing phone consults if you live away from the main clinic or any of the satellite clinics (Tulsa, OK and Springfield, MO). He is very much a talker during this consults and does really well answering all questions and explaining anything you need. He doesnt act at all like he is rushed or needs to get on to the next patient. He remembers things you've spoken of months later and customizes your treatment to you, along with making adjustments to later treatments if previous cycles did not respond how you and he wanted.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be prepared to really talk to him, he strives to answer all your questions and make sure you understand the treatment plan, so sometimes consults can be lengthy.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. Ahlering (and his staff) treated me and our treatment plan as if it was their own, as if this was something they were going through with my husband and I. Any questions we had they did their absolute best to answer question, our Nurse coordinator cried with me when she called to deliver the positive pregnancy test news, and even during a subsequent phone consult (we live 2000 miles from the clinic) with Dr. Ahlering about further cycles he remembered the name of our son and that we had a female embryo transfered at the same time that did not survive. We live over 2000 miles from this clinic, but believe so much in them, that we plan to use them in further treatments to provide our son siblings.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
We chose to do 2 cycles and bank the eggs before fertilizing them and doing a transfer. Both cycles were agonist cycles with the use of follistem and gonal-F and a lupron trigger. I was also on estrogen patches and then testosterone patches for the 2nd cycle. The first cycle produced 10 eggs and the second produced 12 (I have reduced ovarian reserve). We then used ICSI and PGS testing. We ended with 4 embryos for testing 2 normal and 2 low level mosaic (which will be used after another 2 egg banking cycles if needed).
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen and Rachel)
You will have different nurse coordinators for retrieval and transfer cycles. Both of the coordinators (and the entire staff) were wonderful. They never had a problem answering question after question, were extremely patient and helpful. Rachel (our transfer coordinator) even cried on the phone with me when she called to give us our only positive result after 3 transfers and 7 embryos (2 transfers at a previous clinic).
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The clinic and staff are very well run and wonderfully caring. The only real issue we have had was with billing, and they were still very understanding it just took a bit of time to straighten things out. Part of this was because of miscommunication and misunderstanding, but as I said, they were still very patient. The clinic has "offices" on 2 seperate floors, so its necessary to know where you are going, but if you show up on the wrong floor, it isn't a difficult thing to fix. They work really well to accommodate you and your needs, we live over 2000 miles away and they do phone consults and order some of the pre- testing done nearer to us.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
We paid around 23,000$ for 2 egg banking cycles, PGS testing, medications, and 3 months of frozen embryo storage.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Dr. Ahlering was fine with us transfering 2 PGS tested embryos, as I am healthy. I know from others that he will suggest only one embryo in certain cases. He has also suggested using our low level mosaic embryos if the planned 2 egg banking cycles are not successful.
He [Dr. Ahlering] is really like no other doctor I have ever dealt with. He cares about what you want, and tries to get to you to your goal without pushing you to do what he wants. He is supportive, he even answered my email on the weekend within minutes.... He doesn't care how much money he is making off of you, he cares if you get pregnant or not. Our Egg retrieval only ended up with 5 mature and he said we needed another egg retrieval and I said I couldn't afford it and he said "then I won't charge you".
Strength [MCRM- Chesterfield] would be the compassion and working with each person individually. They have great success rates because Dr. Ahlering knows what he is doing. They are very busy so sometimes they don't return calls super fast but they never forget you.... $20k including PGS testing, embryoscope, two egg retrievals, fertility meds, and transfer... Jen was amazing, she became a friend more than a coordinator. She was responsive and knew what she was doing, always talked me off the ledge and gave me more support than I ever could have imagined
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He is really like no other doctor I have ever dealt with. He cares about what you want, and tries to get to you to your goal without pushing you to do what he wants. He is supportive, he even answered my email on the weekend within minutes.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
You are in wonderful hands, trust that he knows what he is doing and doing the best for you
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He doesn't care how much money he is making off of you, he cares if you get pregnant or not. Our Egg retrieval only ended up with 5 mature and he said we needed another egg retrieval and I said I couldn't afford it and he said "then I won't charge you". He is in this business to help people complete their families, not to make a profit off of vulnerable women.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
First retrieval we used gonal-f, menopur, and cetrotide but my follicles didn't respond well so we switched up to add clomid and testosterone patches for the second cycle. I got the same result but I liked how he tried something different to see if we could get a better outcome
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen Atkinson)
Jen was amazing, she became a friend more than a coordinator. She was responsive and knew what she was doing, always talked me off the ledge and gave me more support than I ever could have imagined
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Strength would be the compassion and working with each person individually. They have great success rates because Dr. Ahlering knows what he is doing. They are very busy so sometimes they don't return calls super fast but they never forget you.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
$20k including PGS testing, embryoscope, two egg retrievals, fertility meds, and transfer
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
His view was that people should have large families if they want them, but one baby at a time was best for mother and baby- he likes to transfer one embryo at a time
I feel like [Dr. Peter Ahlering is] a great doctor overall but is not great about listening to or respecting patients concerns if they fall outside what he believes. He can be close minded in his treatment approach and will refuse treatment options that are outside his opinion of what causes failure in IVF. You really have to advocate hard for yourself with this doctor if you’d like to explore any other option
I have had a couple nursing coordinators [at MCRM] but Jen F. was always timely in her response and generally compassionate. I’m a long distance patient so her being responsive was very important to me...After contacting multiple staff members and leaving voicemails and emails, I received a call that they had lost or just received my results. It was a very nerve wracking experience, as anyone waiting on results can attest to!
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I feel like he’s a great doctor overall but is not great about listening to or respecting patients concerns if they fall outside what he believes. He can be close minded in his treatment approach and will refuse treatment options that are outside his opinion of what causes failure in IVF. You really have to advocate hard for yourself with this doctor if you’d like to explore any other options.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be prepared to do your own research if things don’t go as planned and actively seek out treatments you think might benefit you because he may not. Ie, intralipids, ERA testing, uterine scratch.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I felt the doctor was always too busy to remember details and didn’t listen well to our concerns or questions. However, he’s personable while you’re in his office and his nursing staff is usually really great.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
We used ICSI with nanobeads for sperm selection, PGS testing, global-f. Our transfers were basic with estrogen and progesterone supplementation. Our first cycle produced good embryos but no pregnancies and 1 ectopic that required emergency surgery. We are still in progress after our second retrieval.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jennifer Farley)
I have had a couple nursing coordinators but Jen F. was always timely in her response and generally compassionate. I’m a long distance patient so her being responsive was very important to me.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I think they’ve gotten so busy, they forgot about the personal aspect of all this and how daunting ivf can be. You really have to seek out answers to questions. After failures, it’s hard to get an appointment any sooner than 2 weeks out. After a failed transfer, the sooner the consultation, the better. Trust me.
They have great technology though that as far as I know, no other clinics have, especially in regards to sperm selection. They will work with you financially, particularly after failed cycles.
Describe your experience with your monitoring appointments at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
I did off site monitoring because I live out of state.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Our first cycle was around $13000 for retrieval and one transfer. We then paid about 2-3k per transfer after. Our second cycle was given to us at about half price due to our ending up with all failures and an ectopic. We’ve spent about $25k at this clinic.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Failed to call with results
Lost results
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Our first retrieval cycle, we PGS tested our embryos. They said they had not received them yet on Friday afternoon of the week they were to have been done. I contacted genetic testing lab and was told they’d been sent overtwo days earlier. After contacting multiple staff members and leaving voicemails and emails, I received a call that they had lost or just received my results. It was a very nerve wracking experience, as anyone waiting on results can attest to!
Dr Ahlering prefers the Antagonist protocol with treating patients with DOR. He uses a combination of oral medication and injectables. I had one cycle cancelled due to no response to medication which I was using clomid and injectables so the following cycle he had me use Letrozole and injectables but also starting the oral medication prior to the timing I did in the previous cycle which gave me 4 mature eggs from 4 follicles at baseline.
The biggest strength of the clinic [MCRM] is that they have a patient support specialist. This really made this clinic stand out above others to me. They organize patient events and gatherings. She also manages a Facebook page for patients which allows patients to connect. They also coordinate a cycle buddy program so you have someone to connect with during the IVF cycle. They are amazing with their patient outreach.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr Ahlering is an outstanding doctor with compassion for his patients. He is very knowledgeable and confident in his research and choices for treatment. He is also willing to consider your opinion and take into account your personal wishes for treatment. Even though I have diminished ovarian reserve, he has never once given up on me or my desire to pursue treatment using my own eggs. He is very specialized in treating patients who have diminished ovarian reserve by focusing on using less medication and getting more quality from the eggs retrieved. He is very compassionate and respectful of his patients.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He is a very caring and friendly doctor who is very knowledgeable and trustworthy.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
The staff is always very welcoming and warm. I felt like they all knew my name and were always very encouraging and compassionate. Dr Ahlering is very interested in ensuring I felt like all of my questions were addressed.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
Dr Ahlering prefers the Antagonist protocol with treating patients with DOR. He uses a combination of oral medication and injectables. I had one cycle cancelled due to no response to medication which I was using clomid and injectables so the following cycle he had me use Letrozole and injectables but also starting the oral medication prior to the timing I did in the previous cycle which gave me 4 mature eggs from 4 follicles at baseline.
The next cycle we continued with the Letrozole but used them at the same time as the injectables which resulted in 2 eggs retrieved from 3 follicles at the baseline scan.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen Atkinson)
My coordinator was extremely compassionate and helpful outside of and during my retrieval cycles. Always responsive to questions and took the time to see me if she was available to say hi during my monitoring appointments. All of the nursing staff were very warm and compassionate and made the experience positive.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The biggest strength of the clinic is that they have a patient support specialist. This really made this clinic stand out above others to me. They organize patient events and gatherings. She also manages a Facebook page for patients which allows patients to connect. They also coordinate a cycle buddy program so you have someone to connect with during the IVF cycle. They are amazing with their patient outreach.
Occasionally it does feel a little disorganized since they cycle all of the patients at the same time so it gets pretty chaotic and it can be difficult to get in touch with someone once the phones are turned off after hours. They have an emergency line for after hours but some questions are better off not considering it an emergency!
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Dr Ahlering includes a few things as part of his standard of care such as ICSI and then some extra add ins depending on the patient needs. He offers an embryoscope, nanobead sperm selection and positive sperm selection.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
During our first meeting with Dr. Ahlering he answered all of our questions, explained all the science his lab used to male factor, and gave us some options for us to think about. We met with him again to discuss the results of our lab work and semen analysis. From there, he made a detailed plan for us and made sure he answered all of our questions. When I emailed him additional questions we had throughout the process, he always he emailed me back within 24 hours (usually by the end of the day)!...He made us feel very relaxed and we never felt uncomfortable asking questions. His bedside manor is some of the best we’ve experienced!
It was around $18,500 out of pocket without any insurance coverage [at MCRM]. They offer a $1000 educator discount...There were times during our cycle that I had to advocate for myself and be assertive but the nurses were always quick to call me back and answer all my questions!...Jen and Rachel [nurses] were both amazing!! Jen did tons of leg work to see if any of my meds would be covered by insurance (even though they were not). I do wish I would have received my list of medications sooner than a few days before my start date. This would have given me time to comparison shop for medications.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Dr. A is amazing! He was so thorough in answering all our questions and explaining what would happen as we went through every step. He made us feel very relaxed and we never felt uncomfortable asking questions. His bedside manor is some of the best we’ve experienced!
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Don’t be afraid to ask questions!
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
During our first meeting with Dr. Ahlering he answered all of our questions, explained all the science his lab used to male factor, and gave us some options for us to think about. We met with him again to discuss the results of our lab work and semen analysis. From there, he made a detailed plan for us and made sure he answered all of our questions. When I emailed him additional questions we had throughout the process, he always he emailed me back within 24 hours (usually by the end of the day)!
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Jen and Rachel )
Jen and Rachel were both amazing!! Jen did tons of leg work to see if any of my meds would be covered by insurance (even though they were not). I do wish I would have received my list of medications sooner than a few days before my start date. This would have given me time to comparison shop for medications.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
In December of 2016 my husband and I saw our FIRST specialist. We left the appointment feeling hopeless! The doctor was rude.. he showed no enthusiasm... there was no detailed plan. They made us watch a video in a small dark room, by ourselves! It.Was.AWFUL!
A year passed.
Then, after talking with a high school friend, (and MCRM patient!) my husband wanted a second opinion. I sent an email to MCRM on MLK day 2018, not expecting a call back because the office was closed. Within 30 MINUTES someone was on the phone with me, getting everything scheduled! And let me tell you, I JUST KNEW!! I KNEW it would be different! I KNEW they cared! I KNEW we had found our clinic! We met with Dr. Ahlering on 1-30-2018 and, for the first time in YEARS, we felt HOPEFUL, EXCITED, and so very THANKFUL! MCRM has different technology and Dr. A showed us, in detail, the difference in his lab as compared to others. We knew it wouldn’t be easy. We knew there were no guarantees. But, when you feel supported in this journey, it makes all the difference!! There were times during our cycle that I had to advocate for myself and be assertive but the nurses were always quick to call me back and answer all my questions!
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
It was around $18,500 out of pocket without any insurance coverage. They offer a $1000 educator discount.
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Dr. Ahlering was very honest with us about the risks of transferring multiples and said it would be a safer option to transfer a single, frozen embryo. We trusted his judgement!
I really respect Dr. Ahlering but I don't see him often. I've actually only seen him twice - at my initial consultation and then a few weeks later when getting the results. Since starting treatment I haven't seen him but I have been offered appointments with him.... I am currently in my 3rd IUI cycle and my medication combination has changed each cycle. I feel like the changes are in response to how the previous went and I appreciate that we're making these changes and not doing something that doesn't work over and over.
The entire staff at MCRM is so kind and loving. I always feel like a human - not a number - when I'm in the office. It's very important to me since I spend so much time their during any given month.... They are so busy - so they are occasionally running behind. They offer early appointments which I appreciate because of my work schedule. You likely won't see Dr. A [Ahlering] all that often but the rest of the staff is great and I always feel well taken care of.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
I really respect Dr. Ahlering but I don't see him often. I've actually only seen him twice - at my initial consultation and then a few weeks later when getting the results. Since starting treatment I haven't seen him but I have been offered appointments with him.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Right now, I'd say that I really like him and would recommend him but I'm not sure how long that would be the case if we don't get better results soon. Not that the results are his fault but I would start to wonder about the treatment plan.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
The entire staff at MCRM is so kind and loving. I always feel like a human - not a number - when I'm in the office. It's very important to me since I spend so much time their during any given month.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I am currently in my 3rd IUI cycle and my medication combination has changed each cycle. I feel like the changes are in response to how the previous went and I appreciate that we're making these changes and not doing something that doesn't work over and over. I started with just oral medications and a trigger, then my dosage was upped for my second and now on my third I'm doing injectibles, orals and a trigger. I am hopeful that this cycle will give the results we want.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Christina)
Christina is amazing. I don't know how she does it all! She regularly is returning my messages and calls well after hours and I always feel very informed.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
They are so busy - so they are occasionally running behind. They offer early appointments which I appreciate because of my work schedule. You likely won't see Dr. A all that often but the rest of the staff is great and I always feel well taken care of.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Each ultrasound is $200, the IUI procedure and sperm wash is $500. I have had 1 ultrasound each cycle except the first when I had 2. In addition to the procedures above my medications cost anywhere from $200 - $500 a cycle. The most I've spent is $1,200 for 1 cycle.
Dr. Ahlering was very friendly and seemed genuinely concerned about us. However, he underplayed the risks of being unsuccessful...Dr. Ahlering likes to say that his protocols are individualized but they really aren't. My nurse mentioned that it was the "___" protocol - essentially one of a dozen options and one commonly used for people with PCOS. When my results were OK, but not stellar, during monitoring visits, Dr. Ahlering did very little to increase my dosages or change the path we were on which ultimately led to failure.
When we called to reschedule our retrieval time [at MCRM], Rachel was very rude - I have not spoken to her directly since as I began communicating with a different coordinator after that exchange....here were a few routine business office matters that were pretty frustrating, including issues with insurance...The discounts are OK - but very limited. I would personally like to see a needs based discount for couples with low income to allow those of us with a subsistence income to have the chance to have a baby too.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility?
Dr. Ahlering was very friendly and seemed genuinely concerned about us. However, he underplayed the risks of being unsuccessful, even going so far as to say that with our numbers we were looking at at least one and maybe two live births. Needless to say, when I ended up with dramatically fewer eggs (10 not 20), embryos (2) and no live births, I was very disappointed/heartbroken and angry at myself for spending our life savings on something we were lead to believe was a pretty sure thing.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility?
Take his enthusiasm for your chances of success with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, he is selling a very expensive service.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility?
We had specifically requested a later retrieval because my husband has had a demonstrably lower count/quality in the mornings. We had also discussed a Sunday retrieval with Dr. Aubuchon (we saw her for our pre-retrieval appointment instead of Dr. Ahlering because he was busy). After this appointment we were scheduled for the very first 7 am appointment on Saturday. When we called in to ask why and how to get this changed, we were basically told that they could not and would not change it - like it or lump it! - and that they had 70 other patients and were too busy to accommodate our needs... even if we had spent $10000+ in patients to MCRM specifically for the treatment.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility and their degree of success.
I purchased the IVF Gold package. Dr. Ahlering likes to say that his protocols are individualized but they really aren't. My nurse mentioned that it was the "___" protocol - essentially one of a dozen options and one commonly used for people with PCOS. When my results were OK, but not stellar, during monitoring visits, Dr. Ahlering did very little to increase my dosages or change the path we were on which ultimately led to failure.
Describe your experience with your nurse at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility. (Assigned nurse: Rachel)
When we called to reschedule our retrieval time, Rachel was very rude - I have not spoken to her directly since as I began communicating with a different coordinator after that exchange. Overall, she did a good job before that and the decision to just squeeze us in was not hers. So, although we had a very heated exchange, overall she did an acceptable job.
Describe your experience with Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility.
Overall, MCRM is a marketing machine that is attempting to grow their clinic and attract new patients. They do offer relatively low prices and are interested in using newer technologies to improve success. I do think they believe they are doing good for people, however, it is hard to understand how any clinic can excuse charging such high prices to cash pay patients while giving huge discounts to insuranced patients (through their agreements with the insurance companies) but this is an industry-wide issue not specific to MCRM. Dr. Ahlering is knowledgable and wants a good outcome for his patients. Even so, they are actively building on to their facility with new construction, etc. The discounts are OK - but very limited. I would personally like to see a needs based discount for couples with low income to allow those of us with a subsistence income to have the chance to have a baby too.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility.
$10,000 for the Gold package with discounts
$3500 for medication
$2200 for PGS testing (we ultimately decided not to do this when we only had 2 embryos, we had been told we were likely to have 8+ when we started the process)
Describe Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)'s approach to eSET (elective single embryo transfer) vs. multiple embryo transfer at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility.
We had two embryos and he was more than happy to transfer two embyros. From what I have heard, he is willing to transfer more embryos if that means a successful pregnancy, regardless of risk of multiples. The clinic seems to have a relatively high number of multiples.
What specific things went wrong at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility?
Lost paperwork
Failed to inform you of changes in protocol
Provided conflicting information
Scheduled the wrong procedure
Describe the specific things that went wrong at Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility.
Pretty much the things already described - changing decisions after consulting with us and not allowing us to be involved in those changes. There were a few routine business office matters that were pretty frustrating, including issues with insurance, but while frustrating they did not impact our treatment in the end.
NPS2
Doctor
Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN)
NPS
Humanity1 of 5
Communication2 of 5
Frequency Seen4 of 5
Trustworthiness2 of 5
Compassion4 of 5
Explained risks2 of 5
Adaptability3 of 5
NPS6
Clinic
Missouri Center for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility
He [Dr. Ahlering] was very knowledgeable but he wasn’t very sympathetic. He didn’t want to really explain why it wasn’t working. He was more interested in explaining the process. I also asked him to write a letter saying that I was diagnosed as ‘infertile’. However, all he did was basically say it was my fault we were not trying IVF again...He treated me like a human but he tried to make everything seem ‘normal’ when I was not able to get pregnant. He basically couldn’t give me a reason that both transfers failed.
The clinic [MCRM] was nice. It was in a nice location in Chesterfield. It was sometimes hard to get through to a real person when calling the office. The front desk ladies were nice. However, they didn't always know what was going on...Was suppose to have blood work done, but the front office didn't know. So I sat and waited for 30 minutes before someone finally telling me I needed to get my blood drawn. Waited over an hour for some appointments.
How was your experience with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He was very knowledgeable but he wasn’t very sympathetic. He didn’t want to really explain why it wasn’t working. He was more interested in explaining the process. I also asked him to write a letter saying that I was diagnosed as ‘infertile’. However, all he did was basically say it was my fault we were not trying IVF again.
What's one piece of advice would you give a prospective patient of Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Be prepared to spend a lot of money and don’t get your hopes up.
During treatment, were you treated like a number or a human with Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
He treated me like a human but he tried to make everything seem ‘normal’ when I was not able to get pregnant. He basically couldn’t give me a reason that both transfers failed. I ultimately felt like he just wanted more money.
Describe the protocols Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) used in your cycles at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic) and their degree of success.
I used the normal IVF drugs and protocol the first time. The second time, we did everything the same except we included anti-rejection shots even though Dr. Ahlering didn’t think that was a real drain it didn’t work the first time.
Describe your experience with your nurse at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic). (Assigned nurse: Lindsey)
At first, she was very attentive. But once I had the second failed cycle, she was less attentive and sometimes rude.
Describe your experience with MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The clinic was nice. It was in a nice location in Chesterfield. It was sometimes hard to get through to a real person when calling the office. The front desk ladies were nice. However, they didn't always know what was going on so I would have to tell them what I needed at my next appointment.
Describe the costs associated with your care under Peter Ahlering (OB/ GYN) at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
The initial cycle was around $15,000 (depending on medications). The second cycle was given to me at a discounted rate. He took about $4,000 off but they added more medications.
What specific things went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic)?
Lost appointments
Failed to call with results
Scheduled the wrong procedure
Describe the specific things that went wrong at MCRM Fertility (First Fertility Network clinic).
Was suppose to have blood work done, but the front office didn't know. So I sat and waited for 30 minutes before someone finally telling me I needed to get my blood drawn. Waited over an hour for some appointments.